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Old 08-12-08, 02:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Stop FinalFantasyVersusXIII.net, enough!

Recently, I've been noticed by Squall that FinalFantasyVersusXIII.net acting against Myffnet community.

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**** You Myffnet.com
How about hosting your own images and searching for your own news
Hey Myffnet members, please stop posting news from FinalFantasyVersusXiii.net. I'm not really sure why but they're going crazy because of it. Dont you think so?

Anyway, we're not going to be rude even if they are. If they dont want to share news with our website we're not gonna beg for it...

After all its their stuff and content, lets respect their efforts.

Here's a couple of gaming sites that provide news for all:
GameTab - The Game Reviews & News Compilation Site.
Kotaku, the Gamer’s Guide

Any suggestions?
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Old 08-12-08, 11:40 AM   #2 (permalink)
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haha yeah they seemed pissed!! i find it quite funny actually!
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Old 08-12-08, 12:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Wow. Wonder what made them so pissed. It had to be a combination of things not just us giving them news.
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Old 08-12-08, 04:17 PM   #4 (permalink)
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man this is stupid in my opinion it´s only news and we put the source I can´t see the problem with that
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Old 08-13-08, 06:32 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Recently, I've been noticed by Squall that FinalFantasyVersusXIII.net acting against Myffnet community.



Hey Myffnet members, please stop posting news from FinalFantasyVersusXiii.net. I'm not really sure why but they're going crazy because of it. Dont you think so?

Anyway, we're not going to be rude even if they are. If they dont want to share news with our website we're not gonna beg for it...

After all its their stuff and content, lets respect their efforts.

Here's a couple of gaming sites that provide news for all:
GameTab - The Game Reviews & News Compilation Site.
Kotaku, the Gamer’s Guide

Any suggestions?
Firstly, I'll just introduce myself. Just in case i cause any confusion, but i think it's pretty simple who i am.
I am a news poster from finalfantasy_xiii.net & finalfantasyversusxiii.net.

It's pretty simple why we've brought the matter of your news posting up in our own forum because our admin has obviously contacted you before on this matter, and it was dealt with, yet then it's seemingly arose again.

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Posted on their forums and they said they didn't realise they were stealing our news...

They said they'd stop and they started again a few months ago :V
If your news posters cannot see what the problem is. Then I'll put it straight.
It's plagiarism.
It's the fact that you are using our posts. Simply cutting and pasting our words and links into your own posts.
It's not the case of sharing news, it's the case of using sources as a link back to the direct source you obtained the news from, not using it as a defense mechanism, just in case somebody starts to complain. Start sourcing your news correctly and placing any detail in your own words, not others.
If your are so illiterate and unable to to type your own news posts, then don't bother at all, it's not worth it.

Also just in case you seem unable to still understand what plagiarism is, then I'll leave a Wikipedia link it's description. Then maybe you might understand this matter more.

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Old 08-13-08, 07:47 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Wth is this?
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Old 08-13-08, 10:45 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Firstly, I'll just introduce myself. Just in case i cause any confusion, but i think it's pretty simple who i am.
I am a news poster from finalfantasy_xiii.net & finalfantasyversusxiii.net.

It's pretty simple why we've brought the matter of your news posting up in our own forum because our admin has obviously contacted you before on this matter, and it was dealt with, yet then it's seemingly arose again.



If your news posters cannot see what the problem is. Then I'll put it straight.
It's plagiarism.
It's the fact that you are using our posts. Simply cutting and pasting our words and links into your own posts.
It's not the case of sharing news, it's the case of using sources as a link back to the direct source you obtained the news from, not using it as a defense mechanism, just in case somebody starts to complain. Start sourcing your news correctly and placing any detail in your own words, not others.
If your are so illiterate and unable to to type your own news posts, then don't bother at all, it's not worth it.

Also just in case you seem unable to still understand what plagiarism is, then I'll leave a Wikipedia link it's description. Then maybe you might understand this matter more.

Plagiarism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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but ive studied plagiarism and this what you speak of is not plagiarism.

it is plagiarism if people post the news without the source.
so far that ive heard they have been posting the source.
and you dont have to change the wording as long as you put the source.
sourcing is exactly like citation. you can either change the wording or not.
but as long as the source is there there is no will you can say that its plagiarism
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Old 08-13-08, 12:49 PM   #8 (permalink)
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lmfao. They deleted my old post from months ago.

I'm glad everyone finds this funny because we do to! Our amusement may be coming from another level though. Simply copy and pasting news (or using our RSS feeds as you morons actually posted our Versus section update) is plagiarism whatever way you look at it. I'm not saying news posts require a lot of effort to type out but when someone takes 10 seconds to copy and paste them without even leaving a clickable link, it's quite a piss take. You don't even upload our images to your own server. Like Cathryn said, I have posted here before telling you all to stop and you seemed to comply for all of a week. I'm glad it's stopped again but I wonder for how long this time.

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Old 08-13-08, 04:05 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I just have to say one thing again we put the SOURCE... It´s like posting a link I cannot see the problem with that Kimitsu and Cathryn.... if they want, they can go to your site/forum but if they don´t want I can´t do anything about it but something that really pisses me off was that about saying **** to our community changing those links for those comments....

and about the time you´re saying I haven´t notice about that.....

about the link if you guys don´t like it we can put the source and the link but if after all you´re only saying that the problem if that we post your news with copy and paste what other way we can do that.... typing? or you guys only want to say that we need to change some words and say that those are our news.....

You know what better I stay quite....

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Old 08-13-08, 04:51 PM   #10 (permalink)
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It's not our news, nobody physically owns it. It's our words, that we are relatively annoyed about, you are simply copying and pasting our own idea's and work, into your post.
I can see your capable of doing what any news poster would do, yet, your making it easier for yourself to copy and paste.

The sourcing is usually always used in news posting on gaming sites, but the actual source writing of the post is never taken and re posted on another site, not unless quotations are used. Because you are quoting it from the source it isn't seen as Plagiarism.
But copying and pasting anothers work is.

That is the point Kitmitsu was trying to get across a while back, whenever it began i suppose, and it was what he did now. But it seems you've ignored it and still gone ahead with what you are doing.

And typing is usually the way news works over sites, i know it was pretty much a rhetorical question in what you put, but seriously, would you expect it any other way over the internet unless your dealing by video feed. Your more than capable of putting news posts into your own writing and making it your own news work.
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Old 08-13-08, 05:14 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I have talk to someone that gave me an advice..... so NVM....

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Old 08-13-08, 09:34 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Okayokay,
yes indeed. We must not copy their stuff.
Who the hell is this Vista guy anyway? I guess I'm stupid to not know...

Yes I do recall one of you contacting us a while ago about the matter, I remember I asked, then, if you wanted it removed, or just credited. I don't think I ever got a reply...or did I, without seeing it?
Either way. It is true. Those news should not be here. So it won't happen again. I'll make sure to remove any news stolen from you guys' site if it ever gets put up here again.
And this time; do you want me to remove the copying already done? Or...rewrite it all? Or... xD
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Old 08-14-08, 12:29 AM   #13 (permalink)
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well, I see we're done here.
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Old 08-14-08, 12:42 AM   #14 (permalink)
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k I'll close this


we gotta make a decision BUT... I still didn't like the way you told us to not take the news from you....

If we're taking the news from your site is for something... is not for trouble...... you guys are good at it.... if you want a link on the source.. then it will be there.....

ok one last thing before closing this and fighting more..... can we at least erase your words and put our words on the news?.. we can still leave the source and the origin....
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